spydr
Apr 5, 10:20 AM
Wait....let me guess, their final conclusion is , that they still don't recommend it because of XYZ issues affecting a whopping 1% of the customers. Do I win the prize? :D
PlaceofDis
Jan 14, 11:21 PM
A few people have set up chat for MWSF in ichat. it is called: MWSF08. Simply go to file>Go to chatroom> MWSF08. All 7 of us in the room were wondering if MacRumors could lock this or announce it somehow.
macrumors has its own IRC channel, fwiw.
http://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/08/macrumors-irc-channel-macrumors/
macrumors has its own IRC channel, fwiw.
http://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/08/macrumors-irc-channel-macrumors/
Reach9
Apr 19, 08:26 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)
They're getting rid of the light in lion. They don't want the average user worrying about "open" or "closed" apps. Just use and exit when done. The system will worry with open and closed. I like it that way.
Auto save, resume, saving state is the future of multitasking for all Apple products.
Actually there is an option to turn the indicator light on, in System Prefs. I think quitting, closing and opening apps is perfect the way it is.
They're getting rid of the light in lion. They don't want the average user worrying about "open" or "closed" apps. Just use and exit when done. The system will worry with open and closed. I like it that way.
Auto save, resume, saving state is the future of multitasking for all Apple products.
Actually there is an option to turn the indicator light on, in System Prefs. I think quitting, closing and opening apps is perfect the way it is.
ianham
Jun 10, 08:03 PM
Stop complaining. You get the iPhone 4 a month before your neighbours do.
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Rodimus Prime
Apr 7, 04:16 PM
Since it seems pretty likely that we will be a government shutdown 2011 might as well start a thread about it.
According to this article http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in_budget_fight_conservatives_have_put_themselves_in_a_corner/2011/04/06/AFPriirC_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage
it seems pretty clear the Tea Partiers do not want to compromise at all. They not only want 33-50bill in cuts but they want to choose were they come from.
I was listening to the new last night and instead of logical choices in cuts they wanted to go after education, Medicare and things that help the core.
refused to say cut money out of oil subsidy and tighten the ropes on agriculture subsidy.
looks like to me the Tea partiers are showing their true colors when that is what they really want.
Either way figure this thread is going to pop up.
As for students hope you have filed your FASFA by now and those who are trying to get Refunds hope you taxes are down.
As for those who have to pay some taxes a shut down could help you because it will take them longer to process the payment so you hold on to your interested longer. remember it has to be post marked by the 18th no matter what.
According to this article http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in_budget_fight_conservatives_have_put_themselves_in_a_corner/2011/04/06/AFPriirC_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage
it seems pretty clear the Tea Partiers do not want to compromise at all. They not only want 33-50bill in cuts but they want to choose were they come from.
I was listening to the new last night and instead of logical choices in cuts they wanted to go after education, Medicare and things that help the core.
refused to say cut money out of oil subsidy and tighten the ropes on agriculture subsidy.
looks like to me the Tea partiers are showing their true colors when that is what they really want.
Either way figure this thread is going to pop up.
As for students hope you have filed your FASFA by now and those who are trying to get Refunds hope you taxes are down.
As for those who have to pay some taxes a shut down could help you because it will take them longer to process the payment so you hold on to your interested longer. remember it has to be post marked by the 18th no matter what.
Abraxsis
Mar 31, 06:01 PM
Just a point to remember in this thread. While fuel prices are much more expensive in Europe, their wages are more significant than ours in the US as well. Minimum wage in the US is currently at 7.25/hour, or roughly 1160/month based on 4 weeks of 40 hours per. This alone can explain some of the gas prices being so high outside of the US.
The minimum wage in the UK is a little over 9.50/hour USD making a monthly, min. wage of approx. 1615.00/month. In the Netherlands it is 11.54/hour USD at 1846/month. 11.92/hour USD (1907/month) in Germany, and 15.50/hour USD (2480/month) in Australia. And in France it is 12.58/hour USD or 2012/month.
You can also factor in holiday time (vacation time to us yanks) and way more paid holidays (as in actual Holidays to us yanks) with the salary as benefits.
Oh, I filled up at 3.42/gallon today.
The minimum wage in the UK is a little over 9.50/hour USD making a monthly, min. wage of approx. 1615.00/month. In the Netherlands it is 11.54/hour USD at 1846/month. 11.92/hour USD (1907/month) in Germany, and 15.50/hour USD (2480/month) in Australia. And in France it is 12.58/hour USD or 2012/month.
You can also factor in holiday time (vacation time to us yanks) and way more paid holidays (as in actual Holidays to us yanks) with the salary as benefits.
Oh, I filled up at 3.42/gallon today.
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joshysquashy
Sep 1, 03:23 AM
For some reason this bummed me out.
I guess I was hopeful that the developer preview was an old build with just enough for the developers to test their apps, and just enough cool new stuff to keep the public interested.
I was hoping that the build was 6 - 8 months old, and Apple was working on a build with all of the top secret features that was going to blow us away.
But I guess while there are obviously a few things up Apple's sleave, we've seen a good chunk of Leopard. I guess that makes sense given each release has 3 - 5 meaningful new features, and 20 or so little new nice touches.
I guesss my hope stemmed from the opportunity to slap Microsoft and Vista. Looks like Leopard is going to be a typical release.
Just because they are improving this build doesnt mean there aren't some major apps or system features they are not revealing to developers.
They could be updating another version of the OS alongside this one with extra goodness!, and the updates are most likely to be fixes based on what the devs tell them is buggy.
I think they have purposefully left stuff out of Leopard for the moment so that it is even more shocking when it is all revealed at the launch of Leopard! thats what apple does best, shocks the public with "one more thing!"
I guess I was hopeful that the developer preview was an old build with just enough for the developers to test their apps, and just enough cool new stuff to keep the public interested.
I was hoping that the build was 6 - 8 months old, and Apple was working on a build with all of the top secret features that was going to blow us away.
But I guess while there are obviously a few things up Apple's sleave, we've seen a good chunk of Leopard. I guess that makes sense given each release has 3 - 5 meaningful new features, and 20 or so little new nice touches.
I guesss my hope stemmed from the opportunity to slap Microsoft and Vista. Looks like Leopard is going to be a typical release.
Just because they are improving this build doesnt mean there aren't some major apps or system features they are not revealing to developers.
They could be updating another version of the OS alongside this one with extra goodness!, and the updates are most likely to be fixes based on what the devs tell them is buggy.
I think they have purposefully left stuff out of Leopard for the moment so that it is even more shocking when it is all revealed at the launch of Leopard! thats what apple does best, shocks the public with "one more thing!"
gkarris
Mar 28, 12:46 PM
Why did you buy a 3DS if you're not going to use the 3D?
At least the option is there - you can turn it on "a little"... ;)
It is cool - hoping for a Black Friday Special - like a free game with it... :D
At least the option is there - you can turn it on "a little"... ;)
It is cool - hoping for a Black Friday Special - like a free game with it... :D
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jessica.
Dec 9, 11:45 PM
Yes, R.I.P. Elizabeth and stay classy Babipsts (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/09/westboro-baptist-church-says-it-will-picket-elizabeth-edwards-funeral/)
baryon
Jun 18, 01:57 PM
Woah... I would partition a 2TB SHXC card and use 1TB for Time Machine and the other half for Final Cut Pro! On freaking 3 square centimeters!
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iJohnHenry
Apr 28, 07:20 PM
I guess it never ends...
Not in our life-time.
Revenue shortfalls represent terror to bureaucrats defending budgets for next year.
Not in our life-time.
Revenue shortfalls represent terror to bureaucrats defending budgets for next year.
PlipPlop
Mar 24, 04:16 AM
Dnla?
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2002cbr600f4i
Feb 18, 12:54 PM
Notice Steve is the only guy without wine?
He had a liver transplant.... Alcohol is a no-no after that!
He had a liver transplant.... Alcohol is a no-no after that!
dhdave
May 24, 11:15 PM
I am a child of the eighties, well really a teenager, but anyway, my freshman year of college (1987) all I wanted was a Macintosh Plus. It was THE computer to have. For me. Everyone else was drooling over 8088's but I was drooling over the Mac. That's what I wanted. I never did get it, (until last year that is) but the seed was planted.
I went on to own 286, 386, 486 , pentium, k62, and pentium III machines. I loved that I could build a machine myself and decide what went into it. I've built every machine I have used since 1998 (before that I just bought 'em). Despite the freedom I've grown tired of it. There is nothing worse than spending 600-1000 on a new setup only to have something not work with something else. Be it video drivers, or a nic. etc. I began looking and drooling over macs again when the iMac came out. Amelio's beige boxes did absolutely nothing for me. But when Steve came back, WOAH!
I was thrilled when windows xp came out. I beta tested windows Me and watched it go from super stable to a high overhead crash-prone mess. Beta testing XP I thought that MS had finally gotten it right. But I quickly realized they hadn't. The windows registry is the weakest link on my system. It becomes increasingly unstable over time (just like windows 9x) and eventually brings the whole system down. To fix it, I've got to reformat and start over. I have learned to partition my drive so everything that I wouldn't want to lose is in it's own partition away from the OS. With OS X, that practice is a thing of the past.
I have also tried linux and liked it, though I found the learning curve very daunting. (the feeling of accomplishment when all was up and running was great, though--anyone remember trying to get your soundblaster to work?? Make?, bash?....whew) When I first read about OS X it got my attention. I watched the quicktime videos of the dock and minimizing a window etc. Then I used it. Finally somebody really had gotten it right. And not for the eye candy. You can be incredibly productive with just the GUI or you can fully exploit the command line. It's as powerful as you wish it to be.
Because I have gone back to school to become a programmer, I will keep my pc around for the occasional time when I can't get virtual pc to run a program on my Mac or when running a program is just too slow. But that's the only reason. I gladly left the windows world and I haven't looked back. I'm glad to finally be where I should have been all those years ago.
--dh
I went on to own 286, 386, 486 , pentium, k62, and pentium III machines. I loved that I could build a machine myself and decide what went into it. I've built every machine I have used since 1998 (before that I just bought 'em). Despite the freedom I've grown tired of it. There is nothing worse than spending 600-1000 on a new setup only to have something not work with something else. Be it video drivers, or a nic. etc. I began looking and drooling over macs again when the iMac came out. Amelio's beige boxes did absolutely nothing for me. But when Steve came back, WOAH!
I was thrilled when windows xp came out. I beta tested windows Me and watched it go from super stable to a high overhead crash-prone mess. Beta testing XP I thought that MS had finally gotten it right. But I quickly realized they hadn't. The windows registry is the weakest link on my system. It becomes increasingly unstable over time (just like windows 9x) and eventually brings the whole system down. To fix it, I've got to reformat and start over. I have learned to partition my drive so everything that I wouldn't want to lose is in it's own partition away from the OS. With OS X, that practice is a thing of the past.
I have also tried linux and liked it, though I found the learning curve very daunting. (the feeling of accomplishment when all was up and running was great, though--anyone remember trying to get your soundblaster to work?? Make?, bash?....whew) When I first read about OS X it got my attention. I watched the quicktime videos of the dock and minimizing a window etc. Then I used it. Finally somebody really had gotten it right. And not for the eye candy. You can be incredibly productive with just the GUI or you can fully exploit the command line. It's as powerful as you wish it to be.
Because I have gone back to school to become a programmer, I will keep my pc around for the occasional time when I can't get virtual pc to run a program on my Mac or when running a program is just too slow. But that's the only reason. I gladly left the windows world and I haven't looked back. I'm glad to finally be where I should have been all those years ago.
--dh
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bigcat318
May 27, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't giving out keys anymore, since the beta doesn't last too much longer. An update said they planned to take it down for a few weeks, then bring it back for a few weeks prior to release. There aren't too many weeks left.
Did anyone get keys from Best Buy? I thought it was just Gamestop. I went to the store and it was printed on my receipt.
Did anyone get keys from Best Buy? I thought it was just Gamestop. I went to the store and it was printed on my receipt.
lostngone
May 2, 01:34 PM
So awesome, it warps reality.
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ender land
Apr 12, 01:01 PM
You mean Mestizos?
WASPs.
WASPs.
pmpknetr21
Mar 22, 09:57 AM
I disagree, very very small discount
Apple should have extended the full education discount of 14% to students. As much as I love Apple's products, they're very much an overly greedy company these days. They're also possibly being myopic, as students are highly likely to buy content for the device IMO
Very shameful Apple
Shameful? Really? What are you talking about?
First off, Apple has already priced these products very competitively at their standard prices. Second, Apple does not provide a standard discount of 14% for their computers to students. It varies from product to product. Thirdly, you can rest assured that Apple, having learned from their "no price umbrella" tactic for the $99 3G and how successful that has been, recognizes that they have to begin offering lower prices on their products.
Dude, seriously, it's $499. That's $100 more than a crappy netbook that won't do half the stuff this thing can do.
Great job, Apple. No shame in your game here.
The iPad is not a tablet PC. You can still pay $2,000 for a tablet PC if you want. The iPad is a tablet yes, but it doesn't run a full blown deskptop OS (I'm not getting into that argument).
My point is, Apple used to offer excellent discounts to students and teachers across all of it's product ranges. It's a shame they're not offering the same with the iPad.
They still offer those discounts. The only reason the percentage of the discount has dropped is because the cost of the computers has also dropped. My 20" iMac G4 cost me $2649 after the student discount back in 2004. For that today, I can get a Mac Pro.
iPod discount? Not needed. iPods are anywhere from $50 to $125 less than what they were 4 years ago. Again, no discount needed.
Really irrelevant for the schools. I can't say this will change our purchasing strategy in this area either way, the discount is too small to matter really.
Untrue when you have schools purchasing by the thousands, as many university's are considering doing for incoming freshman, just as they did with the iPod touch, White MacBook, and iPhone at places like Duke U.
Those ten packs can truly add up. And in this economy, every dollar counts.
Think about the cost schools and students will save on books when publishers begin to offer more and more text books via download versus the 20lb. text that sits on a shelf at the campus bookstore for $175. Then you try to resell at the end of the semester, and guess what? The text has been updated to it's 13th edition, and now you're stuck with it.
Apple's done a great job by pricing these at rock bottom prices already, especially when we all expected prices to be at $899 and up.
I bet my students can't wait to run products like AutoCad, Final Cut Pro, Logic, Sonar and Visual Studio, on the ipad. They'll be so excited I'm sure.
It's just a glorified web slate and note taker. By no means bad but I don't see any students where I work, or staff for that matter, rushing to get one. We may buy one or two for R&D.
I completely agree. It's probably being aimed at the computing illiterate or perhaps commuters but in its current form with an iPhone OS, it's just not powerful or versatile enough for the vast majority of students.
How about we reserve final judgement until we actually use one, m'kay?
Apple should have extended the full education discount of 14% to students. As much as I love Apple's products, they're very much an overly greedy company these days. They're also possibly being myopic, as students are highly likely to buy content for the device IMO
Very shameful Apple
Shameful? Really? What are you talking about?
First off, Apple has already priced these products very competitively at their standard prices. Second, Apple does not provide a standard discount of 14% for their computers to students. It varies from product to product. Thirdly, you can rest assured that Apple, having learned from their "no price umbrella" tactic for the $99 3G and how successful that has been, recognizes that they have to begin offering lower prices on their products.
Dude, seriously, it's $499. That's $100 more than a crappy netbook that won't do half the stuff this thing can do.
Great job, Apple. No shame in your game here.
The iPad is not a tablet PC. You can still pay $2,000 for a tablet PC if you want. The iPad is a tablet yes, but it doesn't run a full blown deskptop OS (I'm not getting into that argument).
My point is, Apple used to offer excellent discounts to students and teachers across all of it's product ranges. It's a shame they're not offering the same with the iPad.
They still offer those discounts. The only reason the percentage of the discount has dropped is because the cost of the computers has also dropped. My 20" iMac G4 cost me $2649 after the student discount back in 2004. For that today, I can get a Mac Pro.
iPod discount? Not needed. iPods are anywhere from $50 to $125 less than what they were 4 years ago. Again, no discount needed.
Really irrelevant for the schools. I can't say this will change our purchasing strategy in this area either way, the discount is too small to matter really.
Untrue when you have schools purchasing by the thousands, as many university's are considering doing for incoming freshman, just as they did with the iPod touch, White MacBook, and iPhone at places like Duke U.
Those ten packs can truly add up. And in this economy, every dollar counts.
Think about the cost schools and students will save on books when publishers begin to offer more and more text books via download versus the 20lb. text that sits on a shelf at the campus bookstore for $175. Then you try to resell at the end of the semester, and guess what? The text has been updated to it's 13th edition, and now you're stuck with it.
Apple's done a great job by pricing these at rock bottom prices already, especially when we all expected prices to be at $899 and up.
I bet my students can't wait to run products like AutoCad, Final Cut Pro, Logic, Sonar and Visual Studio, on the ipad. They'll be so excited I'm sure.
It's just a glorified web slate and note taker. By no means bad but I don't see any students where I work, or staff for that matter, rushing to get one. We may buy one or two for R&D.
I completely agree. It's probably being aimed at the computing illiterate or perhaps commuters but in its current form with an iPhone OS, it's just not powerful or versatile enough for the vast majority of students.
How about we reserve final judgement until we actually use one, m'kay?
MarcBook
Apr 5, 11:11 AM
I would be surprised if Apple reverted to having the headphone jack on the bottom of the iPhone next to the charging slot. This seems very suspect to me.
This is an iPod touch we're dealing with here, not an iPhone.
Also, I agree with pmz above. People agreeing with the idea of a capacitative button aren't thinking it through. It would be a real pain in the butt and would quickly have people returning the device. Playing games such as Real Racing 2 (which most people play while placing their thumbs either side of the screen in landscape orientation), for example, would be impossible. :eek:
This is an iPod touch we're dealing with here, not an iPhone.
Also, I agree with pmz above. People agreeing with the idea of a capacitative button aren't thinking it through. It would be a real pain in the butt and would quickly have people returning the device. Playing games such as Real Racing 2 (which most people play while placing their thumbs either side of the screen in landscape orientation), for example, would be impossible. :eek:
sakasune
Dec 14, 09:18 AM
Macs, since they are built on Unix, run processes at night that clean up logs files, optimize the drive (Windows term is defrag), etc.
I don't know if this would be the cause of the noise but I've noticed before sometimes my processors would be up in the 40-50% region when I'm not doing anything, and a look at the Activity Monitor would reveal the Unix processes that were running in the background.
I don't know if this would be the cause of the noise but I've noticed before sometimes my processors would be up in the 40-50% region when I'm not doing anything, and a look at the Activity Monitor would reveal the Unix processes that were running in the background.
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jabingla2810
Dec 17, 09:01 AM
I think there are a lot of people over thinking this.
Its just a bit of fun.
Some kid just probably thought it would be a laugh to make a facebook group and see what happens.... and its blown up.
And I think its great, and shows the power of Joe Public and the internet.... but thats just my point of view.
Plus the group has rasied loads of money for charity which is good.
People who look at this as anything more than a bit of fun are morons.
Its just a bit of fun.
Some kid just probably thought it would be a laugh to make a facebook group and see what happens.... and its blown up.
And I think its great, and shows the power of Joe Public and the internet.... but thats just my point of view.
Plus the group has rasied loads of money for charity which is good.
People who look at this as anything more than a bit of fun are morons.
freeny
Nov 12, 08:32 PM
"Lighten up," it is so... American :p
What a cliche:rolleyes:
Is that the best you could do?
BTW, My Japanese manager thinks they are hilarious too...
What a cliche:rolleyes:
Is that the best you could do?
BTW, My Japanese manager thinks they are hilarious too...
autrefois
Nov 15, 11:23 AM
Well, let's see... the Zune comes out today. The iPod has been out for about 5 years (?) now. So it took Apple 5 years to have them integrate with airplanes. Shame on Apple for not innovating quicker. Shame, shame, shame. And shame on MS for not innovating quicker too. The Zune's only been out, what,... a few hours and it still can't integrate with planes? Shame on MS. :rolleyes:
Seriously.... what's with all this Zune bashing? This story isn't even about the Zune, yet someone just had to post something about it. I'm not defending MS or anyone. It's just that I get's pretty redundant when everyone praises Apple and bashes on everyone else (especially MS), like Apple can do no wrong. I bet you haven't even played with a Zune yet. It's like people who say they don't like Japanese food or something. And when asked if they've tried it, they say no. How the hell do you know whether you like somethinig or not when you haven't even tried it yet?
Apple fan boys...... :rolleyes:
That's about the funniest thing I've heard, being called an Apple fanboy. Since you replied to my post, I assume you're at least in part referring to me.
I am almost always critical of Apple here on Macrumors, either directly or indirectly, in my posts. Either that, or trying to poke fun at Apple's expense. Their business practices, their business partners, their pricing, their overheating laptops, etc. I'm always worried people with think I'm a troll, which I'm not. I love Apple products, and have given them (entirely too much of) my money over the years, but I realize the company is not perfect and can get better. I occasionally am under the RDF, but try to keep a reasonably critical mind about things.
My post was just meant to be funny. MS's Zune wasn't even out yet, so no I didn't expected airplane integration immediately. And apparently Apple even make sure all their partners knew about the announcement before making it, so that's rather embarrassing for them.
I agree the Zune should be judged on its own merit. My guess is that as an MS product it will probably not be as good as the iPod (heck, Microsoft doesn't even put their name on the box for the Zune) but it will probably gain ground sooner rather than later since people will assume (correctly or not) that Microsoft works better with Microsoft, just like Apple works better with Apple.
Seriously.... what's with all this Zune bashing? This story isn't even about the Zune, yet someone just had to post something about it. I'm not defending MS or anyone. It's just that I get's pretty redundant when everyone praises Apple and bashes on everyone else (especially MS), like Apple can do no wrong. I bet you haven't even played with a Zune yet. It's like people who say they don't like Japanese food or something. And when asked if they've tried it, they say no. How the hell do you know whether you like somethinig or not when you haven't even tried it yet?
Apple fan boys...... :rolleyes:
That's about the funniest thing I've heard, being called an Apple fanboy. Since you replied to my post, I assume you're at least in part referring to me.
I am almost always critical of Apple here on Macrumors, either directly or indirectly, in my posts. Either that, or trying to poke fun at Apple's expense. Their business practices, their business partners, their pricing, their overheating laptops, etc. I'm always worried people with think I'm a troll, which I'm not. I love Apple products, and have given them (entirely too much of) my money over the years, but I realize the company is not perfect and can get better. I occasionally am under the RDF, but try to keep a reasonably critical mind about things.
My post was just meant to be funny. MS's Zune wasn't even out yet, so no I didn't expected airplane integration immediately. And apparently Apple even make sure all their partners knew about the announcement before making it, so that's rather embarrassing for them.
I agree the Zune should be judged on its own merit. My guess is that as an MS product it will probably not be as good as the iPod (heck, Microsoft doesn't even put their name on the box for the Zune) but it will probably gain ground sooner rather than later since people will assume (correctly or not) that Microsoft works better with Microsoft, just like Apple works better with Apple.
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